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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,comp.answers,news.answers Subject: COMP.SYS.CBM: General FAQ, v3.0 Part 4/4 Summary: This posting contains answers to questions that commonly surface in comp.sys.cbm. This posting will tell you enough to get your computer connected to a network, fixed, and/or enhanced. This file should be read by new users of comp.sys.cbm before posting to the group. It should also be proofread by users who are currently active in comp.sys.cbm. Keywords: CBM FAQ Help List C64 C128 VIC Modem Followup-To: comp.sys.cbm Organization: Brain Innovations, Inc. Reply-To: brain@mail.msen.com Message-ID: <cbmmainfaq40895@msen.com> Supersedes: <cbmmainfaq40795@msen.com> Expires: 05 Sep 1995 Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.EDU Archive-name: cbm-main-faq.3.0.p4 Comp-answers-archive-name: commodore/main-faq/part4 News-answers-archive-name: commodore/main-faq/part4 Comp-sys-cbm-archive-name: main-faq/part4 Version: 3.0 Last-modified: 1995/08/04 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Table of Contents (for this file) --------------------------------- 14. Programming 14.1. What Programming Languages are available? 14.2. What is a Cross Assembler? How do I use one? 15. User Groups 16. Sales and Service 16.1. Where do I purchase Commodore Equipment and Software? 16.2. Where do I get equipment serviced? 16.3. How do I know who to buy from or request service from? 17. Miscellaneous 17.1. How fast does a Commodore 64 run? 17.2. How can a turn my NTSC-M 64 into a PAL-B 64 or vice versa? 17.3. What does this IC number mean? 18. Credits --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14. Programming 14.1. What Programming Languages are available? You name it, and it is probably available for the Commodore computer system. The following languages are known to be supported on the CBM platform at this time: BASIC C COBOL COMAL FORTH LISP PASCAL 14.2. What is a Cross Assembler? How do I use one? A cross assembler is a program that runs on one computer and generates code for another computer. Usually, a non 8-bit CBM machine generates the code using this program, but it can be another 64 hooked in some way to a "target" 64. Whatever the case, here are some packages that can be used: as6502 linking 6502 cross assembler masm6502 6502 macro cross-assembler ps65a12 Unix format 6502 cross assembler svasm02 6502 cross assembler xasm220 many-targeted cross assemblers 15. User Groups User's Groups fulfill a major function for Commodore owners. They provide a place to meet other users, discuss problems and solutions for computing, teach and learn information about their machines. Software can be shared and friendships are made. THe Commodore community is made up largely by real or virtual user's groups. The following list details the addresses and names of Commodore User's Groups around the world. Commodore owners are encouraged to join one that is close in order to reap the benefits from group membership. In addition, most groups publish newlsetters filled with topical information. However, these are not the only places to find Commodore owners. See Sections 7 and 8 for information on visiting Commodore owners "online" (Note: is anyone currently compiling these? If so, I can point to your information rather than present it here.) Alabama, USA Birmingham Commodore Club P.O. Box 59564 Birmingham, AL 35259-9564 The Computer Nut 2400 Mountain Drive (Shades Mountain Plaza) Birmingham, AL 35226 H.A.C.K.S. P.O. Box 14356 Huntsville, AL 35815 Alaska, USA Anchorage Commodore Users Group P.O. Box 104615 Anchorage, AK 99510-4615 Sitka Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 2204 Sitka, AK 99835 Arizona, USA Arizona Commodore User's Group (Input/Output) P.O. Box 27201 Tempe, AZ 85285-7201 One of the best newsletters around. Busy Bee User Group 2634 East Malvern Street Tucson, AZ 85716 Catalina Commodore Computer Club, Inc. P.O. Box 32548 Tucson, AZ 85751-2548 Arkansas, USA Arkansas Commodore Enthusiasts (ACE) 2026 B Nichols Road Little Rock, AR 72205 (501) 224-9657 (Bulletin Board System) Northwest Arkansas Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 2925 Fayetteville, AR 72702-2925 California, USA 64/MORE P.O. Box 612794 San Jose, CA 95161-2794 C-128 West User's Group 17047 Devanah Street Covina, CA 91722 C=Humboldt User Group P.O. Box 6502 Eureka, CA 95502 CIVIC 64/128 P.O. Box 2442 Oxnard, CA 93034-2442 (805) 382-1125 (Bulletin Board System) CHLB P.O. Box 7293 Long Beach, CA 90805 CWEST 3462B 17th Street San Francisco, CA 94110 + VCC + P.O. Box 310 + Denair, CA 95316 + Oldest continually active computer club in California. Central Coast Commodore User's Group 3896 Berwyn Drive Santa Maria, CA 93455 Classic 64 Preservation Society 660 Walton Drive Red Bluff, CA 96080 Club 64 P.O. Box 514 Patton, CA 92369 Commodore 64 West User's Group 2306 West 180th Street Torrance, CA 90504 Commodore Hayward User's Group c/o Vernon Viani 4586 Glenn Street Freemont, CA 94536 Commodore Technical User's Group 2231 East Trenton Avenue Orange, CA 92667 Diablo Valley Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 27155 Concord, CA 94527 The Fresno Sixty-Fourum P.O. Box 16098 Fresno, CA 93755 FUNHUG 814 Valley Run Hercules, CA 94547-1440 BBS Number: (510) 713-7944 Hub Area Commodore Club 7127 Arrowhead Trail Browns Valley, CA 95918-9630 Lake County Computer Users 7827 Evergreen Drive Kelseyville, CA 95451 Orange County Commodore Club c/o 439-102 Fair Drive Costa Mesa, CA 92626 Sacremento Commodore Computer Club P.O. Box 13393 Sacramento, CA 95813-3393 South Bay Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 1176 Redondo Beach, CA 90278 Southeast San Diego C-64 User's Group 258 Euclid Avenue #B San Diego, CA 92114-3640 Southern California Commodore User's Group 2059 Cedar Avenue #11 Long Beach, CA 90806-4616 Stockton Commodore User Group 714 East Oak Street Stockton, CA 95202-2229 S.U.C.C.E.S.S. 110 Grace Drive Pasa Robles, CA 93446 Valley Computer Club P.O. Box 310 Denair, CA 95316 Colorado, USA Colorado Commodore Computer Club 1192 South Nome Street Aurora, CO 80012 (303) 751-3247 Ron Snyder (Contact) FC C3 1713 Valley Forge Avenue Fort Collins, CO 80526 Front Range Commodore Club P.O. Box 272 Niwot, CO 80544-0272 Western Slope Commodore User Group P.O. Box 81 Mack, CO 81525 Connecticut, USA Capitol Region Commodore Computer Club/LOAD CRCCC P.O. Box 2372 Vernon, CT 06066 Fairfield Country Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 212 Danbury, CT 06813 Delaware, USA First State Commodore Club P.O. Box 1313 Dover, DE 19903 Florida, USA Beach Computers Highway A1A Satellite Beach, FL The Clearwater Commodore Club, Inc. P.O. Box 11211 Clearwater, FL 34616 Commodore Computer Club of Jacksonville 141 Mango Court Middleburg, FL 32068 Commodore User's Group of South West Florida P.O. Box 7692 Fort Meyers, FL 33911 Commodore User's Group of Venice P.O. Box 3325 Venice, FL 34293 El-Shift-Oh, Incorporated P.O. Box 361348 Melbourne, FL 32936-1348 Gainesville Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 90212 Gainesville, FL 32607 Manasota Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 698 Oneco, FL 34264-6618 M.I.C.E 11110 Bird Road Miami, FL 33165-4417 Port Orange Commodore User's Group 52 Windward Court Port Orange, FL 32127 Tampa Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 27141 Tampa, FL 33688 Sun Coast Commodore Club c/o 7034 Mayfield Drive Port Richey, FL 34668 Lake/Sumter Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 490416 Leesburg, FL 34748 Georgia, USA SMUG P.O. Box 1762 Lilburn, GA 30226 Hawaii, USA Commodore Hawaii User's Group c/o M.N. Daniels 46-329 Kumoo Loop Kaneohe, HI 96744-3532 Illinois, USA Bloomington-Normal Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 1058 Bloomington, IL 61702-1058 Champaign-Urbana Commodore User's Group (CUCUG) 2010 West William Champaign, IL 61821 East Side Computer Club P.O. Box 276 Godfrey, IL 62035-0276 Fox Valley Computer User Group P.O. Box 28 North Aurora, IL 60542-0028 PAPUG 2508 North Rockwood Drive Peoria, IL 61614 Sandwich Computer User Group P.O. Box 23 Sandwich, IL 60548-0023 S.I.C.K. 818 East Main Street Olney, IL 62450 S.W.R.A.P./64 Incorporated P.O. Box 342 Bedford Park, IL 60499-0342 Indiana, USA CPU 5168 East 65th Street Indianapolis, IN LUCKY LINE Magazine (LUCKY member Dale Sidebottom's own newsletter) c/o Dale Sidebottom P.O. Box 972 New Albany, IN 47151-0972 Midwest Computer User's Group P.O. Box 9311 Highland, IN 46322 Midwest Computer Users Group P.O. Box 9311 Highland, IN 46322 Iowa, USA Commodore User's Group, Ames Region P.O. Box 2302 Ames, IA 50010-2302 Commo-Hawk Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 2724 Cedar Rapids, IA 52406-2724 Kansas, USA TCCUG P.O. Box 8439 Topeka, KS 66608 Commodore Users of Wichita c/o Dale Lutes. 1201 East 61st Street North Park City, KS 67219-1947 (316) 744-2580 Produces the Zero Page newsletter. Kentucky, USA C.O.O.K.Y 3807 Krysta Lane Oboro, KY 43202 Gold City Computer users Group P.O. Box 257 Fort Knox, KY 40121 Louisville Users of Commodore of Kentucky/The LUCKY Report P.O. Box 9551 Louisville, KY 40209-0551 BBS Number: (502) 933-5397 Louisiana, USA Acadiana Commodore Computer Club 416 Dale Street Lafayette, LA 70501 New Orleans Commodore Klub-64/128 P.O. Box 1997 Metaire, LA 70004-1997 Maryland, USA ABCUG P.O. Box 179 Glen Burnie, MD 21060-0179 A.C.U.G. P.O. Box 3358 Annapolis, MD 21403 GCUG 11340 Rambling Road Gaithersburg, MD 20879 PBUG 417 West Phirne Road Glen Burnie, MD 21061 Massachusetts, USA BCS Commodore User's Group c/o The Boston Computer Society 101-A First Avenue, Suite 2 Waltham, MA 02154 Edward Piecewicz, Secretary (Contact) edward@cs.umb.edu (Information) A one year Associate membership for those outside Maine, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Vermont, ans New Hampshire, is $35.00 US. If inside, the cost is $39.00 US. The membership includes the monthly magazine "BCS Magazine", which includes the Commodore newsletter. Commodore Computer Club of the Berkshires 38 Walden lane Pittsfield, MA 01201 Pioneer Valley Commodore Club 6 Laurel Terrace Westfield, MA 01085 Michigan, USA Computer Users of Lexington P.O. Box 482 Lexington, MI 48450-0482 Down River Commodore Group P.O. Box 1277 Southgate, MI 48195 Lansing Area Commodore Club LACC membership P.O. Box 1065 East Lansing, MI 48826 Membership dues are $15.00 US per year per family. membership entitles you to receive the monthly newsletter and get PD software. Michigan Commodore User's Group 800 Lloyd Madison Heights, MI 48071-1915 Muskegon Area Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 4496 Muskegon Heights, MI 49444 Saginaw Area Commodore User's Group (SACUG) P.O. Box 2393 Saginaw, MI 48605-2393 Minnesota, USA MCUGA 5027 Vera Cruz Avenue North Crystal, MN 55429 RACUG 920 Mayowood Road Southwest Rochester, MN 55902 Mississippi, USA Arrowscape 301 West Ray Drive Hattiesburg, MS 39402-1046 Missouri, USA CUGOS P.O. Box 607 Springfield, MO 65801 CUGSL P.O. Box 837 Bridgeton, MO 63044 Commodore User's Group of Kansas City P.O. Box 36034 Kansas City, MO 64111 Computers North User's Group P.O. Box 34534 North Kansas City, MO 64116 MDC/RCC ComSIG P.O. Box 34088 St. Louis, MO 63134 Nebraska, USA Greater Omaha Commodore User Group P.O. Box 241155 Omaha, NE 68124-1155 New Jersey, USA C.E.B.U.G. P.O. Box 314 East Brunswick, NJ 08816 Info 64 User's Group c/o 186 Delmar Avenue Glen Rock, NJ 07452 Rancocas Valley Users Group 806 Windsor Drive Cinnaminson, NJ 08077-3717 New Mexico, USA NMCUG: New Mexico Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 37127 Albuquerque, NM DIMensions newsletter. New Dimensions P.O. Box 37127 Albuquerque, NM 87176 New York, USA TCCUG c/o Vestal Library Vestal, NY 13850 Bronx User's Group P.O. Box 523 Bronx, NY 10475 Brentwood Commodore Computer Club c/o Brentwood Public Library 2nd Avenue and 4th Street Brentwood, NY 11711 COMBUG 48A Old Lyme Avenue Williamsville, NY 14221 Hudson Valley Commodore Club c/o G.T. Gallagher 620 Plainfield Street Kingston, NY 12401 Northern NY Commodore Home Users Group c/o 6 Garden Street Pottsdam, NY 13662 Queens Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 129 Queens, NY 11417 Southtown User's Group West Seneca Road West Seneca, NY Tri-City Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 12742 Albany, NY 12212 Twin Tier Commodore Club 512 Jefferson Street Elmira, NY 14904 North Carolina ACUG P.O. Box 3095 Burlington, NC 27215 GOCUG 13 East Bayshore Blvd. Jacksonville, NC 28540 Ohio, USA Ashtabula County Commodore User's Group c/o 1034 Michigan Avenue Ashtabula, OH 44004 Basic Bits Commodore Group P.O. Box 81886 Cleveland, OH 44181-0886 Jerry Swartz (Contact) Jerry_Swartz@clbbs.com (Internet Contact) Michael Kelley (Contect) Michael_Kelly@clbbs.com (Internet Contact) In operation since 1984, still very active in the Commodore arena. A great users group with a great newsletter. $10.00 per year associate membership. $20.00 per year family membership. Includes access to a large public domain library. Central Ohio Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 28229 Columbus, OH 43228-0229 Cincinnati Commodore Computer Club (CCCC) 5575 Pleasant Hill Road Milford, OH 45150 Commodore Club of Central Ohio P.O. Box 292392 Columbus, OH 43229 Commodore Computer Club of Toledo P.O. Box 13011 Toledo, OH 43613 Corning Glass Works User Group 3708 Street Route 271 West Greenville, OH 45331 Erie Bay Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 1461 Sandusky, OH 44870 Shelby Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 512 Shelby, OH 44875 South Toledo Commodore Computer Club (STCCC) P.O. Box 3167 Toledo, OH 43607 Oklahoma, USA Commodore Users of Bartlesville 1920 Sante Fe Bartlesville, OK 74003 Commodore Users Group of Lawton P.O. Box 3392 Lawton, OK 73502 The Register P.O. Box 52473 Tulsa, OK 74152-0473 Tulsa Area Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 52473 Tulsa, OK 74152-0473 Oregon, USA Commodore User's Association (CUA) P.O. Box 84 Medford, OR 97524 Coos Computer Club 2175 Everett North Bend, OR 97459 Crash 64 P.O. Box 241 Salem, OR 97308 Lane County Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 11316 Eugene, OR 97440 Pennsylvania, USA LVCUG P.O. Box 2 New Tripoli, PA 18066-0002 Harrisburg Area Computer Club 721 South 29th Street Harrisburg, PA 17111 Lehigh Valley Commodore User's Group 931 Lawrence Drive Emmaus, PA 18049 Main Line Commodore User's Group 1046 General Allen Lane West Chester, PA 19382 Philadelphia Area Computer Society c/o LaSalle University Philadelphia, PA 19141 Pittsburgh Commodore Group P.O. Box 16126 Pittsburgh, PA 15242 (412) 396-5483 (Bulletin Board System) | WWW URL: http://monami.psc.edu/ Scranton Commodore user's Group P.O. Box 244 Scranton, PA 18501 South Carolina, USA CCC of Columbia 2800 Cliffside Drive Columbia, SC 29053 River Rats User Group P.O. Box 1036 Bath, SC 29816-6610 South Dakota, USA Sioux Empire Commodore Club 1932 South Menlo Avenue Sioux Falls, SD 57105-2717 Tennessee, USA Memphis Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 34095 Memphis, TN 38134 Texas, USA CWSAT P.O. Box 380732 San Antonio, TX 78280 Abilene Cursor Control P.O. Box 6261 Abilene, TX 79608 Commodore Houston User's Group (CHUG) P.O. Box 441252 Houston, TX 77244-1252 ?SYNTAX newsletter Commodore Users of San Antonio Texas P.O. Box 380732 San Antonio, TX 78280 Harlingen Commodore User Group 1900 Grace Harlingen, TX 78550 + Metro C-64/128 Users (SIG of Metroplex Commodore Computer Group) 6004 Cowden Fort Worth, TX 76135 Mike Msessums (Contact) msessums@fastlane.net (Internet Contact) + WWW URL: http://www.fastlane.net/homepages/msessums/msessums.html#METRO See Metroplex Commodore Computer Club (MCCC) entry for membership info. | Metroplex Commodore Computer Club P.O. Box 813 Bedford, TX 76095 + WWW URL: http://www.fastlane.net/homepages/msessums/msessums.html + Meeting are open to all. Family memberships as $24 per year or $15 for + 6 months, and entitle member to monthly copies of MCCC News, PD Library + access, and DFW area merchant's discounts. An additional $12 annual fee + provides access to the MCCC BBS. Muskegon Area Commodore User Group c/o 1522 Bitter Creek Garland, TX 75040 North Dallas Commodore User's Group c/o 1522 Bitter Creek Garland, TX 75040 Mike Neus (Contact) NEUS@timsg.csc.ti.com (Internet Contact) Utah, USA Mountain Computer Society 3898 Cheryl Street Salt Lake City, UT 84119-4682 Vermont, USA Champlain Valley Commodore User's Group 6 Mayfair Street South Burlington, VT 05403 Viginia, USA C64 Compendium P.O. Box 70 Ringgold, VA 24586-0070 MPCUG P.O. Box 391 Gloucester, VA 23061 PCUG P.O. Box 11293 Newport News, VA 23601-9293 PCUG P.O. Box 6561 Portsmouth, VA, 23703 Commodore Users of Lynchburg 238 Twin Oak Drive Lynchburg, VA 24502 Fredricksburg Commodore Club 6803 Teal Court Spotsylvania, VA 22553 North Viginia Commodore 9206 Annhurst Street Fairfax, VA 22031-1902 Peninsula Commodore User's Group c/o W.L. Philips P.O. Box 11293 Newport News, VA 23601-9293 Washington Area Commodore User's Group 7728 Viceroy Street Springfield, VA 22151 Vermont, USA Warren Kazakiewich P.O. Box 77 West Wardsboro, VT 05368 Washington, USA OPUG 1415 South Cherry Street Port Angeles, WA 98362 VCUG 2807 Northeast 99th Street Vancouver, WA 98665 Commodore Users of Puget Sound P.O. Box 1806 Silverdale, WA 98383-1806 Tri-City Commodore Computer Club (TC-Cubed) P.O. Box 224 Richland, WA 99352-0224 University of Washington Commodore User's Group P.O. Box 25878 Seattle, WA 98125 West Virginia, USA Commodore Home User's Group of Wheeling (CHUG) 81 Lynwood Avenue Wheeling, WV 26003 Wyoming, USA Cheyenne Association of Computer Enthusiasts P.O. Box 1733 Cheyenne, WY 82003 Canada Calgary Commodore User Group c/o 427 5th Avenue, SE High River, AB Canada T1V 1H9 Commodore Users of Edmonton 9550-83 Street Edmonton, Alberta Canada T6C-3A1 + Commodore Users Group of Nova Scotia + c/o Tony Cianfaglione + 6249 Willow Street + Halifax, Nova Scotia + Canada B3L 1P1 + (902) 425-1944 + ab616@ccn.cs.dal.ca (Contact) Hamilton Commodore Users Group P.O. Box 20202, Upper James P.O. Hamilton, Ontario L9C7M5 Ottawa Home Computer Club 1743 Caminiti Cresent Orleans, Ontario Canada K4A-1M2 Saskatoon User's Group 2614 Ahaultain Avenue Saskatoon, SK S7J1R6 Canada Toronto PET User's Group (TPUG) 5334 Yonge Street, Box #116 Willowdale, Ontario Canada M2N 6M2 England Independent Commodore Products User Group ICHPUG Membership secretary 17 Colne Drive Didcot, Oxon OX11 7JZ Great Britain It supports all Commodore computers and has a software library for each of them. It also produces 6 Journals a year of approx 100 pages each. They have an Amateur Radio section in their c64 software library. GeoClub 55 High Bank Road Droyslden, Manchester M35 6FS England PLUS4/C16 Users Group c/o Tony Ellis 36 Western Highway Blaxland NSW 2774 (047) 39 1528 (Voice) Specializes in the Plus/4 and Commodore 16. Germany GEOS User's Club Xantener Street 40 D-46286 Dorsten, Germany Vereinigte GEOS Anwender Koeln (United Geos Users Cologne) VGA Koeln c/o Thomas Bruehl Eichenweg 38 D-50859 Koeln (Cologne) GERMANY thomas.bruehl@vga.infox.com / FIDO 2:2450/140.5 (Contact) First of all, we love our GEOS for C64/128. But beside this (if there is a new card, drive etc.) we have to maintain the C64/128 basics. So we meet every 3rd saturday at cologne, do some talking, perform workshops and publish our own news-letter, the GEOS-Kurier. New Zealand Kapiti Commodore Users' Group 23 Weggery Drive Waikanae, New Zealand Miscellaneous Meeting 64/128 Users Through the Mail Route 7, Box 7614 Palestine, TX 75801 Francis Redmond, President jpnan@prairienet.org (Contact) A very good users group. Has been around for 7 years. $15 per year includes monthly newsletter. 16. Sales and Service Sooner or later, every Commodore owner will need to get his or her computer serviced, add another peripheral, or simply purchase some enhancement hardware or software. Contrary to popular belief, there is a large base of hardware and software suppliers and service centers. 16.1. Where do I purchase Commodore Equipment and Software? Commodore no longer manufactures Commodore 8-bit computers. Many online services, including comp.sys.cbm, publications, and user groups newsletters contain regular messages from people wanting to sell Commodore equipment. In Germany, there are a number of shops which still sell factory new Commodore 64 and Commodore 128 computers. Commodore also no longer manufactures software for the Commodore 8-bit line. However, many companies still sell software for the Commodore line. A number of third parties still support the Commodore 8-bit line. They are listed below with a sampling of their products: Creative Micro Designs, Incorporated. (CMD) 15 Benton Drive P.O. Box 646 East Longmeadow, MA 01028-0646 (800) 638-3263 (Orders only) (413) 525-0023 (Information) (413) 525-0147 (Fascimile) cmd-doug@genie.geis.com (Contact) CMD Hard Drives, Floppy Drives, GEOS Software, JiffyDOS, RAMLink, Games, SID Symphony, IEEE Flash!, Printer Adaptors, Books, Productivity, MIDI SW. CMD Direkt (CMD Europe) Postfach 58, A-6410 Telfs, Austria 0043-5262-66080 (Voice) 0043-5262-64040 (Fascimile) Plus Electronics (CMD Germany) Postfach 100 263, D-30198 Seelze, Germany 05137-50477 (Voice) 05137-91376 (Fascimile) Sandinges Import and Data (CMD Sweden) Norsbergvagen 8-B, S-302 30 Halmstad, Sweden 351-22164 (Voice) Novo Computers (CMD Australia) P.O. Box 237 Mayfield, NSW 2304, Australia 049-602-082 (Voice) Exceldata (CMD Australia) P.O. Box 572 Marrickville, NSW, 2204, Australia 02-550-0727 (Voice) 02-558-1884 (Fascimile) Software Support International 2700 N.E. Andresen Road Suite A-10 Vancouver, WA 98661 (800) 356-1179 (Orders Only) (360) 695-1393 (Information) (360) 695-9648 (Information) (360) 695-0059 (Fascimile) 1750 Clone, Miscellaneous Software and Hardware. Software Hut Folcroft East Business Park 313 Henderson Drive Sharon Hill, PA 19079 (800) 932-6442 (Orders only) (610) 586-5701 (Information) (610) 586-5704 (Technical Support) (610) 586-5706 (Fascimile) Miscellaneous Software and Hardware. SOGWAP Software 115 Bellmont Road Decatur, IN 46733 (219) 724-3900 Big Blue Reader, and Bible Search Software The FGM Connection P.O. Box 2206 Roseburg, OR 97470 (503) 673-2234 (Information) Fun Graphics Machine Software, printing/ publishing utility Mad Man Software The Enterprise Center 1400 E. College Drive Cheyenne, WY 82007-3298 Supply the C-Kit94 compression program. Horse Feathers Graphics N. 27310 Short Road Deer Park, WA 99006-9712 Western Graphics for Print Shop, Professional quality Busy Bee Software P.O. Box 206 Saint David, AZ 85630 Eric Lee (Contact) (502) 720-4103 The Write Stuff 64/128 wordprocessing software Brown Boxes, Inc. 26 Concord Road Bedford, MA 01730 (617) 275-0090 Quick Brown Box Battery Backed Memory cartridges for the C64/128 Performance Peripherals, Inc. 5 Upper Loudon Road Loudonville, NY 12211 (518) 436-0485 Battery Backed Ram expansion units. FLASH8 cartidge. Commodore Country 1420 Country Road 914 Burleson, TX 76028 | (817) 295-7658 (Information and Orders) + (817) 477 9674 (Fascimile) + Provide Commodore and Amiga sales and service, and carry new and used + software for the C64, C128, and Amiga lines. Living Proof, Ltd P.O. Box 80714 Minneapolis, MN 55408-8714 I paint software for the C128 Antigrav Toolkit P.O. Box 1074 Cambridge, MA 02142 KeyDOS ROM version 2 for the C128 Creative Pixels, Ltd. P.O. Box 502 Library, PA 15129 "The Adventures of Eric Hawthorne, P.I." action/strategy game. "A Day In the Life of a Prehistoric Man" Micro Storm Software P.O. Box 1086 Sidney, MT 59270 Public Domain and Shareware software 8-Bit P.O. Box 542 Lindenhurst, NY 11757-0542 (516) 957-1100 (Orders) Public Domain and Commercial Software 64 Disk Connection 4291 Holland Road, Suite 562 Virginia Beach, VA 23452 Large selection of public domain and shareware software. Softside Supply c/o Dale Sidebottom 1001 Estate Circle Georgetown, IN 47122 GEOS Applications US Commodore Support c/o Ron Snyder 364 South Nile Street Aurora, CO 80012 (303) 344-5940 (Information and Orders) Sells used Hardware and software. A full price list is available on ccnga.uwaterloo.ca in /pub/cbm/comp.sys.cbm/us.cbm-list. John Green 365 Smith Street Freeport, NY 11520 Sells "The Castle of Kraisar", a role playing game. Home-Spun Software P.O. box 1064DH Estero, FL 33928 Unusual software, Foreign utilities. Computer Bargain Store 3366 South 2300 East Salt Lake City, UT 84109 (801) 466-8084 (Information: call only between 4-6 PM Mountain Time) New and like-new C128D computers. Tech Star Computer Center 7036 188th South Kent, WA 98032 (206) 251-9040 (Information/Orders) Refurbished hardware and new software. Suzart 1529 Longmont Avenue Boise, ID 83706-3731 Fonts for GEOS. Mega-Disk Software P.O. Box 1554 Ellensburg, WA 98926-1554 Joshua Brandt (Contact) brandtj@cwu.edu (Internet contact) Mega-Disk software specializes in public domain and shareware on sets of 3.5" disk for the C-64 with a 1581, CMD FD-2000, or CMD FD-4000. Each set has over 2.5 Megs of files and cost $10 to $20. They currently have 3 different sets (SAMPLER #1, DEMOS #1, and GAMES #1). Send a SASE to the above address for a complete catalog. Disks O'Plenty Software 8362 Pines Blvd. Suite 270 Pembroke Pines, FL 33024 (305) 963-7750 (Orders) Microstorm Software P.O. Box 1086 Sidney, MT 59270 Q Enterprises Software P.O. Box 77123 Washington, DC 20013-7123 Powerdisk Software 6813 Lotus Way West Jordan, UT 84084 Compute Books! c/o CCC 2500 McClellan Ave. Pennsauken, NJ 08109 Various Compute! Books. Caloke Industries (Dept. GK) P.O. Box 18477 Raytown, MO 64133 Send US$2.00 for catalog + sample disk of programs J.P. PBM Products By Mail (Commodore Hardware) c/o N. Sheridan Mall Postal Outlet - Box # 60515 Downsview, Ontario M3L 1BO CANADA Send US$2.00 For C64 catalog on disk. CPI, Department D Keystone Software P.O. Box 8369 Pittsburgh, PA. 15218 (412) 243-1049 (Orders and Information) (412) 731-2460 (Fascimile) Leroy's Cheatsheets. KFPDS Software c/o Kenneth Franklin P.O. Box 470464 Los Angeles, CA 90047-0464 Send US$2.00 for catalog + sample disks. Threshold Productions 17730 15th Avenue NE Suite #229 Seattle, WA 98155 (206) 361-1332 Jon Mines (Contact) tpinfo@eskimo.com (Information) TP is a developer and producer of quality & budget software. Fred Ogle P.O. Box 35427 Dundalk, MD 21222-7427 F.OGLE@GENIE.GEIS.COM (Information) The Color 64 BBS Software. R&K MicroTronics 34 Hillwyck Toledo, OH 43615 (419) 536-1455 (Information and Orders) Commodore repair and sales. Centsible Software P.O. Box 930 St. Joseph, MI 49085 (616) 428-9096 (Information and Orders) CENTSIBLE@DELPHI.COM (Information) Used software for the Commodore. Angelo Pasquella P.O. Box 71 Beachwood, HJ 08722-0071 (908) 349-9187 (Information M-F 10AM-5PM & 7PM-10PM EST) ArcTech Soft P.O. Box 56911 North Pole, AK 99705-1911 Software. RMS 16 Maybrook Drive Maywood, NJ 07607 (201) 843-3116 (Information) (201) 845-8250 (Bulletin Board System) (201) 843-3116 (Fascimile) (201) 501-5435 (Beeper for C-Net Technical Support) (201) 801-1953 (Beeper for Other Technical Support) (201) 385-5586 (Online Store) rosemarie_fox@2604.fido.the-boss.com (Information) C-Net 128 and C-Net 64 BBS Programs, Shareware, Used SW, CBM HW, CBM repair. They now accept Visa, MasterCard, and American Express Orders. Master Software 6 Hillery Court Randallstown, MD 21133 (410) 922-2962 (Information and Orders) BASIC Help Screens, Monitor Cables, Chip Saver Kit, TaxMaster SW. Russian Wyatt 8614 Bramble Lane #203 Randallstown, MD 21133 Quest for Adventure for C-128. ACS Computer and Video Incorporated 5344 Jimmy Carter Blvd. Norcross, GA 30093 (404) 263-9190 (Information) (800) 962-4489 (Orders) (404) 263-7852 (Fascimile) Aprotek 9323 West Evans Creek Road Rogue River, OR 97537 (503) 582-2120 (Orders and Information) (503) 582-1225 (BBS) Computer Bargain Store 3366 South 2300 East Salt Lake City, UT 84109 (801) 466-8084 (Orders and Information) (801) 486-9128 (Fascimile) Dave's Computers 32400 Aurora Road Solon, OH 44139 (216) 467-9793 EMS Computer Service 4355 Kinney Road Ludington, MI 49431 (616) 845-1540 Lyben P.O. Box 130 5545 Bridgewood Sterling Heights, MI 48311-0130 (810) 268-8100 Mid Continent Computers 2332 North MacArthur Oklahoma City, OK 73127 (405) 946-2888 (Orders and Information) Micro R&D 721 "O" Street Loup City, NE 68853 (800) 527-8797 (Orders and Information) Xetec 2804 Arnold Road Salina, KS 67401 (913) 827-0685 Andor House/Don Radler 3907 Southeast 2nd Avenue Cape Coral, FL 33904 Bare Bones Software 3060 Route 60 East Hurricane, WV 25526 (800) 638-1123 (Orders Only) (304) 562-1608 (Bulletin Board System) (304) 562-1610 (Fascimile) (304) 562-1609 (order Inquires, Information, Customer Support) Bruno's Computer Warehouse 510 Andover Park West Tukwila, WA 98188 (206) 575-8737 (Information and Orders) Caloke Industries P.O. Box 18477 Raytown, MO 64133 (816) 478-6185 (Information and Orders) Compsult P.O. Box 5160 San Luis Obispo, CA 93403-5160 (805) 544-6616 (Information and Orders) (805) 544-6576 (Fascimile) $5-$10 Commercial Software and Public Domain Software Computer Workshops 3612 Birdie Drive La Mesa, Ca 91941-8044 Digital Vision, Incorporated 270 Bridge Street Dedham, MA 02026 (617) 329-5400 (Information) (800) 346-0090 (Orders) Easy Books Distributing P.O. Box 216 Iowa Park, TX 76367-0216 (817) 592-4727 (Orders and Information) Epyx Incorporated 1979 Palomar Oaks Way Carlsbad, CA 92009 (619) 431-9888 (Orders and Information) Family Computers & Video Games 510 South First Street Mount Vernon, WA 98273 (206) 336-3586 (Orders and Information) Compustuff 2759 Medina Road Medina, OH 44256 (216) 725-7729 (Orders and Information) (216) 723-7070 (Fascimile) FRD Software 3487 East Terrace Fresno, CA 93703 Horse Feathers Graphics North 27310 Short Road Deer Park, WA 99006-9712 (509) 276-6928 Lance Haffner Games P.O. Box 100594 Nashville, TN 37224 (615) 242-2617 Landmark Series c/o New Horizon Software 326 Fern Avenue - Second Floor Lyndhurst, NJ 07071-2127 Click Here Software Maurice Randall P.O. Box 606 215 East Harris Charlotte, MI 48813 Offers the new GeoFax program, which allows faxes to be sent and received from your Commodore 64. Music Software Exchange P.O. Box 533334 Orlando, FL 32853-3334 Nathan Fiedler 5711 Nount Pleasant Road Bernville, PA 19506 Novastar Game Company P.O. Box 1813 Rocklin, CA 95677 (916) 624-7113 (Orders and Information) Quincy Softworks 9479 East Whitmore Avenua Hughson, CA 95326-9745 SW, TopDesk for GEOS. Software Clearance Center 2025 Southwest Freeway Houston, TX 77098 (800) 825-1990 (Orders) Software Etc. 801 South Greenville Avenua Allen, TX 75002 (214) 727-9695 (Orders and Information) Spark's Electronics 5316 South Ninth Street Saint Joseph, MO 65404-1802 (816) 238-5235 (Orders and Information) Surplus Computer Software 3301 South Harbor Blvd. Santa Ana, CA 92704 (714) 751-2667 (Orders and Information) Nathan Fiedler 5711 Mount Pleasant Road Bernville, PA 19506 Terrapin Software 400 Riverside Street Portland, ME 04103-1068 (800) 972-8200 Titus Software 20432 Corisco Street Chatsworth, CA 91311 (818) 709-3692 User's Corner 1110 East Jackson Medford, OR 97504 (503) 773-8868 (Orders and Information) West River Computer Center 1212 Ordegon Rapid City, SD 57701-2006 (605) 348-3389 (Information) (800) 272-1591 (Orders) Abacus 5370 52nd Street Southeast Grand Rapids, MI 49512 (616) 698-0330 (Information) (800) 272-1591 (Orders) Brantford Educational Services 6 Pioneer Place Brantford, ONT Canada N3R7G7 Busy Bee User Group P.O. Box 3 Arivaca, AZ 85601-0003 LynnCarthy Industries P.O. Box 392 Boise, ID 83701-0392 (208) 383-0300 Performance Peripherals, dieHard Digi-Key 701 Brooks Avenue South P.O. Box 677 Thief River Falls, MN 56701-0677 (800) 344-4539 (Orders) Replacement ICs. Elliam Associates P.O. Box 2664 Atascadero, CA 93423 (805) 466-8440 (Orders and Information) John Elliot 35 Crestview Avenue Daly City, CA 94015 (415) 756-9810 Howard W. Sams & Company 2647 Waterfront Parkway East Drive Indianapolis, IN 46214-2041 (317) 298-5400 (Orders and Information) Jameco Electronics 1355 Shoreway Road Belmont, CA 94002 (415) 592-8097 (Orders and Information) Replacement ICs. Jason-Ranhem Company 3105 Gayle Lane Auburn, CA 95602 (916) 878-0785 (Information) (800) 421-7731 (Orders) Kaltec Adjuntas, Puerto Rico 00601-0971 Marshview Software Limited P.O. Box 1212 Sackville, New Brunswick, Canada E0A3C0 (506) 364-0110 (Orders and Information) (506) 536-1462 (Fascimile) MEI/Micro Center 1100 Steelwood Road Columbus, OH 43212 (800) 634-3478 (Orders and Information) Midwest Micro-Peripherals 6910 US Route 36 East Fletcher, OH 45326 (800) 522-8080 (Orders and Information) L.L. Plankey 1712 Santa Margarita Drive Fallbrook, CA 92028-1641 RTH Compuware 805 Timber Lane Glenwood, IA 51534 (712) 527-3863 Reliance Forms & Supplies Incorporated 23920 Freeway Park Drive Farmington Hills, MI 48334 (810) 478-6620 (Orders and Information) Spheretron (formerly Schnedler Systems) 25 Eastwood Road P.O. Box 5964 Asheville, NC 28813 (704) 274-4646 Skyles Electric Works P.O. Box 1984 Cupertino, CA 95015-1984 (408) 737-1632 (Orders and Information) + Offers some CBM IC parts. The Soft Group P.O. Box 111 Montgomery, IL 60538 (708) 851-6667 (Orders and Information) (708) 851-1002 (Fascimile) TAB Books Incorporated Blue Ridge Summit, PA 17294-0840 (717) 794-2191 (Information) (800) 822-8158 (Orders) D-mail U.S.A 91 Market Street Wappingers Falls, NY 12590 (914) 297-4800 (Orders and Information) (914) 297-2483 (Fascimile) Cyberteck Software 928 East Broadway, Suite #317 Missoula, MT 59802-4303 Public Domain GEOS and non-GEOS disks Yanney Software P.O. Box 224 Lebanon, PA 17042-0224 + Pogo Stick Game for 64. Rolfe Wagner 134 Rd 2390 Aztec, NM 87410 MNEMONIC Productions, Inc. 365 Smith Street Freeport, NY 11520 Basic Fundementals Company 2235 East Marie Avenue Salt Lake City, UT 84109 PHD Software Systems P.O. Box 23 Moville, IA 51039-0023 + RAMDOS Internal book, SprayPaint128, Karma Assembler 128, Rez80-128, + Ack128. Sunrise Software 439 Park Lane Massapequa Park, NY 11762-1430 Denny's Quest game. Micro Applications and Appliances 6417 Hawthorne Street Landover, MD 20785-1711 Gary Noakes (Contact) Produces "1581 Expressway" and "Tag! You're It!" programs. Harv Harris 981 BrownThrush Wichita, KS 67212 The Tax Survival Kit Commodore Users of Wichita c/o Robert C. Bales 1201 East 61st Street North Park City, KS 67219-1947 (316) 744-2580 The Tax Survival Kit Herb's Discount Software 4406 A Enterprise Place Fremont, CA 94538 (510) 490-6335 (Orders and Information) Discount Computers and Software 641 Southwest152nd Street Seattle, WA 98166 (206) 431-0180 (Orders and Information) Beverly James Products | c/o Jim Selleck 17710 Olympia Redford, Michigan 48240 (313) 531-8108 (Bulletin Board System) (Main Support BBS) | Original author and copyright holder of C-Net DS2 v11.6, v 2.0 v2.5 and | co-author of v3.0. (Current v3.0 author is Rob Muscedere). | C-Net 64 DS2 BBS Software 92 Lee Ave Apartment N3 Newark, OH 43055 | Michael Bendure (Contact) | (614) 788-8568 (Information, Orders, and Voice Support Line) (614) 522-6563 (Bulletin Board System) | mbendure@infinet.com (Internet Contact) | URL http://www.infinet.com/~mbendure/cnet (C-Net 64 DS2 Home Page) | Michael Bendure 1:226/1400 (Fido Net Contact) | Mitron @ Cygnus X-1 (DS2/Image Net Contact) | Distributes and supports C-Net 64 DS2 v2.0, v2.5, and v3.0 BBS. | Current author and distributor of DS2 Network v3.04 and v3.1 for C-Net | Corrdinator and co-author of Comm-Net (A 64/128 BBS network exclusively | for those machines.) Compuquick Media Center 3758 Town & Country Road Columbus, Ohio 43213 (614) 235-1180 Commodore and Amiga Dealers and Service. CBM 8 bit Hardware and Software. Dick Estel 3487 East Terrace Fresno, CA 93703 Dick Estel FRD line of graphics and fonts for GEOS users. Softdisk Publishing Box 30008 Shreveport, LA 71130-0008 (800) 594-3370 (Information and Orders) LOADSTAR magazine, the Compleat Walt, Dave, and Roger disks. SPORT C64 novel on disk. Henry Sopko 2705 King Street East Apt #212 Hamilton, Ontario, CANADA, L8K1Y4 Sells SCREENSAVER DELUXE for C128. Herbach and Rademan 18 Canal Street P.O. Box 122 Bristol, PA 19007-0122 (800) 848-8001 (Orders and Information) NEW, UNUSED Commodore 128D internal power supplies. New Image Software, Inc. P.O. Box 525 Salem, UT 84653 (801) 423-2209 (Information and Orders) (801) 423-2734 (Bulletin Board System) support@farpoint.mewimage.com (Contact) Image BBS Sales and Support. J.P. PBM Products By Mail Box 60515, North Sheridan Mall P.O. Downsville, Ontario, Canada M3L 1B0 Miscellaneous Commodore equipment and accessories. Parsec, Incorporated P.O. Box 111 Salem, MA 01970-0111 (508) 745-5855 Commercial, Public Domain, and Shareware Software for CBM computers. Applied Technologies, Inc. Lyndon Way Kittery, Maine 03904 ccwx06e@prodigy.com (Contact) (207) 439-5074 (Information and Orders) (207) 439-1061 (Fascimile) "The Whole Bit" Word Processing Software. Randy Winchester P.O. Box 1074 Cambridge, MA 02142 randy@mit.edu (Contact) KeyDOS and KeyDOS ROM for C128. Discount 2000 Am Wisenpfad 1 Tombergstrasse 12a D-53340 Meckenheim, Germany +49/2225/701834 (Information) +49/2225/13360 (Information) +49 2225/10193 (Fascimile) Sells the FLASH8 accelerator cartridge. Juergen Heinisch & Thomas Haberland GEOS User Club, GbR Xantener Str. 40 D-46286 Dorsten Germany, Europe European distributors of TopDesk for GEOS. Seattle Labs 9606 Northeast 180th Street Bothell, WA 98011 (206) 402-6003 (Information and Orders) (206) 828-9011 (Fascimile) (206) 402-6388 (bulletin Board System) lab@seattlelab.com (Contact) http://www.accessone.com/slab/public_html/prodc64s.html Manufacture the C64S emulator for MS-DOS. COMPUTERSMITH RR#1 (Hwy 552 E), Goulais River Ontario, Canada P0S 1E0 | (705) 649-1251 (Fascimile) (In use at night) + (705) 256-0225 (Cellular Phone info@compsmth.soonet.ca (Price List) sales@compsmth.soonet.ca (Order Inquiries) orders@compsmth.soonet.ca (Orders) custserv@compsmth.soonet.ca (Customer Service) New and used programs and accessories. Computer Station 2258 Pacific Avenue Long Beach, CA 90806 (310) 595-0899 (Orders and Information) P.A.V.Y Software P.O. Box 1548 Ballwin, MO 63022 (314) 527-4504 Landmark, the Computer Reference Bible for the C64. COMMODORE CEE P.O. Box 232115 Sacramento, CA 95823 EMAIL Jack Vanderwhite@cee-64.wmeonlin.sacbbx.com (Contact) Jack Vanderwhite (Owner) Fidonet: 1:203/999 (916) 395-9733 (Bulletin Board System) In addition to offering a disk magazine by the same name, they distribute the DWEEZIL DISKS for GEOS, from Quincy Softworks, the English language version of TopDesk for GEOS, the Original GEOS Programmer's Reference Guide, the Hitchhiker's Guide to GEOS, and back issues of GEOJOURNAL. Hatronics 195 Lincoln Avenue Montclair, NJ 07042 (201) 783-7264 Mark Hatten (Contact) Manufacture the HART UART cartridge. Rod Gasson 90 Hilliers Road Reynella 5161 South Australia. Produces QWKRR128. Paxtron Corporation 28 Grove Street Spring Valley NY 10977 (914) 578-6522 (Orders and Information) (914) 624-3239 (Fascimile) + Commodore ICs and Parts. Engineering Consulting 583 Candlewood Street Brea, CA 92621 Robert Blumenkranz (Contact) radiobob@earthlink.net (Contact) http://www.earthlink.net/users/engcon/webdocs/ Manufacturer of Video Poster (cable TV character generator), the The Ultra Com Shack 64 Remote Base and Repeater Controller for Amateur Radio Use. Also sells Switching Power Supply for C64 (very cool running and 90% efficient). + Intercorp Communication + 466 West Harwood + Madison Heights, MI 48071 + CSOFT wares. + Popular Communications + 76 North Broadway + Hicksville, NY 11801-2953 + Distributes the "pop'Comm" software for Amateur Radio use. 16.2. Where do I get equipment serviced? There are a number of repair facilities around that will bring your trusty Commodore computer up to speed again. Please look in the list below for one that might be able to help you. If that doesn't turn up anything, check with your local User's Group. A&M Computer Repair 24 Conklin Drive Stoney Point, NY 10980 (800) 344-4102 (Orders) (914) 562-7271 (Information) Fixed repair prices are very low, C64 C128 etc!! TYCOM Inc. 503 East Street Pittsfield, MA 01201 (413) 442-9771 (Information) Fast, fixed price all hardware repaired J&C Repair RD #2, Box 9 Rockton, PA 15856 (814) 583-5996 (Information) (814) 583-5995 (Fascimile) Repair all hardware. Harvey and Associates 1409 Mill Street Laramie, WY 82070 (307) 742-3275 (Information) Repairs and service. Inexpensive. Computer Technologies 121 North Ridgewood Avenue, Suite A Datona Beach, FL 32114 (800) 237-2835 (Information) Standard C64/128 repairs. Kasara Micro Systems | 7 White Oak Circle | Blufftron, SC 29910 (800) 248-2983 (Information) (803) 757-7748 (Fascimile) All standard C64/128 repairs. Has hardware exchange program. Commodore Connection 127 North Sante Fe Avenue #C Vista, CA 92804-5401 (619) 945-8777 (Information/Orders) Michael Hendren (Contact) General repair. Capestany Copmputer Repair P.O. Box 733 Seabrook, TX 77586 Philip Capestany (Contact) General repair. Sodak Electronics 603 South Mable Sioux Falls, SD 57103 (605) 335-3004 (Information/Orders) Lamar nance (Contact) General repair. Sodak Electronics RR2 Box 52 Hartford, SD 57033 (605) 361-0632 (Information/Orders) Jim Muir (Contact) General repair. Bear Computer Repair Inc 1005 McKean Street Philadelphia, PA 19148 (800) 755-5295 Repair C64, C128, Disk drives etc. BCE Inc/Commodore Connection c/o Jim Bethereum 13914 E. Radcliff Pl. Auroa, CO 80015 (303) 693-4038 Commodore and general computer/peripheral repair. R&K MicroTronics 34 Hillwyck Toledo, OH 43615 (419) 536-1455 (Information and Orders) Commodore repair and sales. Service Management Group 930 Lancaster Avenue Suite 290 Exton, PA 19341 Gordy Wilson's Keyboard Studio 304 North Maple Suite #203 Urbana, IL 61801 (217) 328-3975 Accurate Data Services North 1414 Fiske Spokane, WA 99202 (509) 535-0590 (Orders and Information) Computer Shoppe of Alabama 310 Second Avenue Northwest Suite C Cullman, AI 35055 (205) 739-0040 Computer USERS 138 North Fifth Springfield, OR 97477 (503) 726-8500 (Orders and Information) North American Computer 147 West Broadway Waukesha, WI 53186 (414) 547-6222 (Orders and Information) Handi Hams System Care of Courage Center 3915 Golden Valley Road Golden Valley, MN 55422 (915) 822-2683 (Orders and Information) Global Upgrades 121 West Nyack Road, Suite 6 Nanuet, NY 10954 (800) 426-8693 (Orders and Information) (914) 624-3200 (Orders and Information) (914) 624-3239 (Fascimile) RMS Computer Systems P.O. Box 9222 Paramus, NJ 07653-9222 (201) 843-3116 (Information) (201) 845-8250 (Bulletin Board System) (201) 843-3116 (Fascimile) (201) 501-5435 (Beeper for C-Net Technical Support) (201) 801-1953 (Beeper for Other Technical Support) (201) 385-5586 (Online Store) rosemarie_fox@2604.fido.the-boss.com (Information) C-Net 128 and C-Net 64 BBS Programs, Shareware, Used SW, CBM HW, CBM repair. They now accept Visa, MasterCard, and American Express Orders. Microfix 3535 West Pioneer Parkway Arlington, TX 76013 (817) 261-9615 (Orders and Information) Repairs PET, C64, C128. Creative Micro Designs, Incorporated. (CMD) 15 Benton Drive P.O. Box 646 East Longmeadow, MA 01028-0646 (800) 638-3263 (Orders only) (413) 525-0023 (Information) (413) 525-0147 (Fascimile) cmd-doug@genie.geis.com (Contact) CMD repairs most Commodore hardware. COMPUTERSMITH RR#1 (Hwy 552 E), Goulais River Ontario, Canada P0S 1E0 | (705) 649-1251 (Fascimile) (In use at night) + (705) 256-0225 (Cellular Phone info@compsmth.soonet.ca (Price List) custserv@compsmth.soonet.ca (Customer Service) Service both CBM and Amiga computers. Virginia Microcomputer Services 14800 Build America Drive Woodridge, VA 22191 (703) 491-6502 (Information: 10-6 M-F, 10-4 SAT) (703) 494-0744 (Fascimile) Brian Cotton (Contact) Commodore 8-bit and Amiga Service Engineering Consulting 583 Candlewood Street Brea, CA 92621 Robert Blumenkranz (Contact) radiobob@earthlink.net (Contact) http://www.earthlink.net/users/engcon/webdocs/ Refurbishes C64s and 1541s. + Skyles Electric Works + P.O. Box 1984 + Cupertino, CA 95015-1984 + (408) 737-1632 (Orders and Information) + Repairs CBM CPUs and disk drives. 16.3. How do I know who to buy from or request service from? The information provided in this file does not imply that a company is reputable or even still in business. It is best to use the above information as a starting point, and contact others who can discuss the various manufacturers and repair facilities listed above. 17. Miscellaneous Well, this is where the chaff falls. The following questions are either too new to categorize or do not fit into a category. 17.1. How fast does a Commodore 64 run? If you are using a stock Commodore 64, the CPU clock frequency is a function of the video timing frequency, which is slightly different for differing countries. If you have a stock PAL-B C64 (Common in Europe), the computer is running at 985248.444Hz. If you are using an NTSC-M C64 (Common in the USA), the computer is running slightly faster, at 1022727.143Hz. 17.2. How can a turn my NTSC-M 64 into a PAL-B 64 or vice versa? Changing a C64 from stock PAL-B to stock NTSC-M or vice versa requires swapping in the approproate VIC-II chip and the appropriate crystal, as well as changing a jumper on the motherboard (The jumper has printing near it that indicates whether to cut or connect the jumper). Also, if you have a version 1 KERNAL ROM and want to use the built-in RS-232 routines, you need to either swap KERNAL ROMs with the other computer (not recommended), or obtain a revision 3 KERNAL (recommended). Now, if maintaining stock operation is not a complete must, or if you just want to tinker, the crystal and jumper modifications can be made optional. The VIC-II chip has a relaxed tolerance for timing, so it is possible to run an NTSC-M VIC-II with a PAL-B crystal and jumper settings. The converse is possible as well. Since the crystal frequency is used to generate the frequencies for the TV and monitor output, your TV or monitor may not like the resuling hybrid signal very well, but it won't break anything. In addtion, the jumper indicated above determines the divisor used to scale down the crystal frequency for the CPU. For PAL-B units, the divisor is 18, and for NTSC-M units the divisor is 14. The Commodore 64 will operate regardless of the crystal frequency and state of this jumper. Therefore, to speed up a 64, one can install a PAL-B crystal (17734472Hz) and change the jumper to use the NTSC divisor (14) to increase the operating speed of the machine to 1266748Hz. However, note that any operations (disk, rs-232, special VIC tricks) that require synchronized timing may fail in this "non-stock" scenario. 17.3. What does this IC number mean? Here are a few Commodore IC numbers and their functions. Note that this is an incomplete list. A more comprehansive list is called csg.chips.info and is at ftp.funet.fi. For the VIC-20: Mnemonic PN# Alt. PN# VIC-I (NTSC-M) 6560 VIC-I (PAL-B) 6561 CPU 6502 For the C-64 and C-64C: Mnemonic PN# Alt. PN# VIC-II (NTSC-M) 6567 8562? VIC-II (PAL-B) 6569 8565 VIC-II (PAL-N) 6572 VIC-II (PAL-M) 6573 SID 6581 6582 8580 For the C-128(D): Mnemonic PN# Alt. PN# VIC-IIe (NTSC-M) 8564 VIC-IIe (PAL-B) 8566 VIC-IIe (PAL-N) 8569 DVDC 8563 8568 SID 6581 6582 8580 Differences between 64 boards: The older boards had discrete LSI logic and a PLA chip. The newer boards put all the PLA and LSI logic into one ASIC chip. On the older boards, the KERNAL and BASIC ROMs were separate, while they are combined in the newer design. + There are two different models of the narrow board. One has Color RAM, + while the other does not. The ASIC chip includes the PLA and 7 TTL chips, + and the Color RAM on some machines machines. + The new models use 9 volt versions 8580 SID, while older models use the + 6581 12 volt SID. The VIC chip (6567 NTSC-M, 6569 PAL-B) has been replaced + with the 8562 (NTSC-M) and 8565 (PAL-B) on newer models. + Both BASIC 2.0 and the KERNAL ROM have been combined into one ROM for + the C64C/G/GS. This ROM is the same as is used on the C128 in C64 mode. + The ROM is indentical except for nationality differences. 18. Credits I want to extend my thanks to the following people for their help in providing correct, up-to-date information in this FAQ: Fred Mueller, who maintained this FAQ before I. Everyone who helped add to the 1.4 FAQ material to make the 2.0-2.2 FAQ. Geof Goodrum, for info on WACUG home page. Guenther Bauer, for European TopDesk distributor. Anthony Hawkins, for info on new CUGNS WWW home page. George Page, for info on demise of Commodore Connection. Andreas Varga, for information on SID music home page. Jouko Valta, for info on how to open a 128 PS and general FAQ comments. Russell Alphey, for info on updated email address of c65 list. John Wildes, for new address of Bare Bones SW. Lee Thompson, for info on Seattle Labs. Peter Weighill, for updates on ICHPUG. Holger Heimes, for info on UGUC and some extra places to get the FAQ. Bob Panek, for info on LOADSTAR's new home page. Dan Tobias, for info on LOADSTAR's new home page. | Tim Phelps, for updated info on Novaterm 9.6. Jean Nance, for info on P.A.V.Y Software. Gaelyne Moranec, for general FAQ tidiness. Guenther Bauer, for updated pricing on FLASH8. Marko Makela, for info on NTSC-M/ PAL-B stuff and general comments. Daniel Fandrich, for info on cross-assemblers. David Schmoll, for 1902<->64 cable info. Robert Blumenkranz, for info on his 64 repeater controller. Marv Shelton, for information on Hatronics. Mark Keith, for the rs-232 cable plans. Nhat-Viet Phi, for suggestions on the mini table of contents in each file. Larry Haynes, for correction on BASIC prg in 3.3. Michael Bendure, for updates on his listing. WardShrake, for info on TPUG address. Charles Hollingsworth, for info on CIVIC. Robert Blumenkranz, for info on Engineering Consulting. Tony Cianfaqlione, for correction on Nova Scotia's WWW address. Jack Vanderwhite, for suggestions on improving 13.8 wording. Jack Vanderwhite, for info on COMMODORE CEE Sub. rates. Anthony Hawkins, for updates on Seattle Labs WWW address. + Sami J Laine, for info on DataPump schematics. + Jouko Valta, for general tidiness. + Mike Neus, for the expansion of JPEG. + Harold Hoover, for corrections on RS-232 infterface. + Tony Cianfaglione, for WWW corrections. + Gaelyne Moranec, for info on her WWW site. + Allan Smith, for corrections on COMPUTERSMITH listings. + Michael bendure, for corrections on C-Net 64 DS2 BBS Software. + Jouko Valta, for added info on different c64 boards and other corrections. + Rick Mosdell, for info on Visions. + Daniel Dallmann, for info on his new 9600 bps modem routines and cabling. + Brett Tabke, for info on PHD Software Systems + David Gahris, for info on demise of Chris Philips home page. + Mike Msessums, for more info on MCCC User Group and Commodore Country. + Peter Kurek, for info on his WWW page address change. + Aaron Baugher, for update on comp.emulators.cbm FAQ WWW page address change. + Jeff Fleming, for info on VCC user group and the Commodore GEOS Publication. + Craig Taylor, for updates on his email address. + Jerry Swartz, for more info on BBCG user group. + Daniel Dallmann, for updates on his home country. + David Gahris, for updates on terminal programs. + Holger Heimes, for info on LISP and FORTH for the CBM machines. + David Gahris, for info on PData. + Chris Tucker, for info on Popular Communications.